I feel like a punk. The Spanish always come to my door, and there is some adorable kid with them. So I just say no thank you like a good little householder.
Of course......I'm also trying not to be disfellowshipped.
Lol.
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JWs in denial, so sad
by Simon ini had a couple of jw sisters call at my door today.. they started with the bizarre "can we read you a scripture" and read about "death being no more" and asked what i thought of that.. i said it sounded like a mix of disney and dumb.. they then launched into how god was going to put an end to death and wasn't that wonderful?.
i said it would have been more wonderful if he'd not created death in the first place.. they thought man created death by disobeying so i questioned why god couldn't have just forgiven them.
apparently "because he loves us" is supposed to be a satisfactory answer to why he kills us.. i asked how loving it was to kill hundreds of thousands of children in tsunami's, disease and so on.. at this point, they gave up on the 'god is love' and switched to the bible being true no matter what because it was an old book and moses had written the first chapter (says the book).. when i suggested it really wasn't that old and that most of the bible myths were copies of older stories from before it was written they questioned if i studied the bible and theology.. then i told them i was brought up as a jw so knew it was all crap.. now it was game on, they immediately switched to play defence questioning why i'd left (and i think they'd already taken a step back away from "the evil" obviously emanating from me).. not much time to say much before they cut and run so i told them i'd left because i found out it was all based on lies and that the watchtower was corrupt and covered up things like child abuse.. oh no, you're thinking of the catholics one of them said (some disdain in how she said "catholics" as though "we're so much better than them").. "well, i challenge you to do a search for the australian royal commission and you'll see the testimony the watchtower leaders gave and the damning evidence that they covered up abuse and reported none of it to the police.".
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"Hope for what we do not see" - Review
by problemaddict 2 ini give it 3 thumbs down.. the video starts with an ambulance in peru.
the ambulance people look at an id and a no blood card in spanish.. quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys.
all good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities.
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I give it 3 thumbs down.
The video starts with an ambulance in Peru. the ambulance people look at an ID and a no blood card in Spanish.
Quick flash away to now and a happy family of a couple with 2 young boys. All good kids it collages their everyday life, all centered around theocratic activities. The father walks with his own father. The older man says something about failing the mans brother. Its cryptic.
Grandpa picks up the kids from school one day, and there is an accident. the grandfather, and their youngest boy die.
The mans brother (clearly no longer a JW), misses the service and apologizes. But he comes out. After this, the father is laid off from work (after turning down a promotion because it would take him away from meetings), and then there is a tumor!
So now hes got debt, tumor, no kid, no dad, hes getting discouraged. His brother offers help, but says some snarky mess about him not being able to live in a prayer and fantasy world. He acknowledges his relationship with their father was strained because he didn't want to be a JW.
The guys tumor comes back. While he looks fine and seems good throughout, he tells the elders that visit they don't understand and he wants to die everyday waking up on the bathroom floor. This is not believable at all.
The father breaks down in front of the elders. Of course all the emotion is very surface. Muted almost. He has an old friend come to visit. Guy ends up helping him with his roof free of charge. they remember the good ole days and go for a walk. The guy reveals to all of us that he was serving in Peru and lost his wife. They both cry.
the dad finds strength in his faith, shares it with his family. Tumor/cancer gone. Reads scripture to the son. Apparently gets a new better job in a factory (old one closed down). Everyone is on the mend. Preaching to everyone as it closes.
the end
**The emotional tone was turned up here from the door. Lots of violin, sad music, imagery to conjure emotion in the viewer. Its well produced, and poorly acted which is kind of typical of these videos. The emotion from the people involved is not realistic however. Its very muted and unrealistic. I thought it was interesting that it was heavily suggested the friends wife in Peru dies due to not taking blood, but it was never directly stated. In the end everything is ok and there is no substance. Its just meant to make people cry.
Manipulative.......no surprises.
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Convention Releases 2016 available on JW.ORG
by Designer Stubble innow available on jw.org the rc 2016 releases (all downloadable movies, no books)for a certainty god made him lord and christhttps://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&pub=lrc&prefer=lang&srcid=sharehope for what we do not seehttps://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&pub=dns&prefer=lang&srcid=shareoh jehovah...i trust in youhttps://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&pub=tiy&prefer=lang&srcid=share
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Ugh. The hope for what we do not see video is going to be a trip. It opens with an ambulance taking a JW with a blood card to the hospital. Lovely!
So much for not doubling down on blood. I'll watch and see what this mess is about.
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The smug arrogance of "having the truth".
by stuckinarut2 inhas anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.
perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.
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Londo nailed it.
WT has the market cornered not on smugness, but on the doublethink in regards to smugness. On one hand.....be smug as hell. On the other, act pious. that way you can have your smug and eat it too.
I was once like this if I am being honest with myself. Not that much.....but it was there.
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78 to go and hopefully something good comes of it. Please do your part and sign up. Thanks
by Tenacious inonly 78 signatures are needed in order to send the request to the irs that they revoke or at the very least investigate the borg.
come'on guys, support it.. click here to support and sign up!.
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Medal of Valor given by Obama to JW Grandmother - Check her Lapel Pin
by Da.Furious inthis grandmother found the best way to advertise jw.org by wearing a huge lapel pin.. .
some of the comments are really interesting.. link to article:.
http://www.phillyvoice.com/obama-award-medal-valor-family-slain-philadelphia-police-officer-robert-wilson-iii-monday/.
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Makes perfect sense. JW's forbid service to your community such as this mans, and they believe the US government is a shell which Satan uses for his bidding......why not throw on a mini billboard, and meet the president receiving a medal for the honor your grandson served in while you disapproved.
Arrogant bastards.
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What will be the Next Flip Flop?
by Quarterback innow that the soc has accepted the use of technology.
what is next?
could it be the disfellowshipping?
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I think the next doctrinal change may be regarding the 144,000. Something complex enough to make the average JW not really get it or really be relieved its easier to "understand". It will not be disfelllowshipping. That is the control mechanism. -
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JUst wondering if the Funeral will be at Kingdom Hall
by ShirleyW inprobably not, since his mom already passed and no other family members are jws.
was he officially dfd or he just walked away, don't remember.
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I take that back. His only child died while young. I thought he had another one but I guess I was wrong. my bad.
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JUst wondering if the Funeral will be at Kingdom Hall
by ShirleyW inprobably not, since his mom already passed and no other family members are jws.
was he officially dfd or he just walked away, don't remember.
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JUst wondering if the Funeral will be at Kingdom Hall
by ShirleyW inprobably not, since his mom already passed and no other family members are jws.
was he officially dfd or he just walked away, don't remember.
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Nah. Guy was not "going to meetings" last few years. Probably just something he did for a while, and he lost interest, nobody in the org is going to hold a musical icons feet to the fire.
if his funeral is to be held in the KH, the SOLE purpose would be the ability for the JW brand and service to reach a mass audience.